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Transcript En Plein Air Painting in Tacoma with Catherine Feeney Move to Tacoma Podcast
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Catherine Feeney: Like anything, you can practice and get better. I mean, people think, oh, you’re born a good artist, but it takes a lot of work. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of practice. And you can get better and you can create.
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Marguerite Martin: Hi, I’m Marguerite with movetotacoma.
Marguerite Martin: com and we’re here today. with Katherine Feeney from South Sound Plain Air. [00:01:00] Yes. Welcome, Katherine. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I’m so excited to talk to you. Um, before we get started, can I ask, uh, when did you move to Tacoma and why?
Catherine Feeney: Well, let’s see. I moved here in 1981. For the first time, my dad, uh, was in the military and stationed at Fort Lewis.
Catherine Feeney: A classic tale. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And we lived here about three years on the far east side of Tacoma. Um, and then moved away. And then my parents liked it so much that, uh, they kept their house and we moved back in 1990. And then I left around that time to go off to college and start my life. And then came back in 2001.
Catherine Feeney: And moved, uh, to the north end of Tacoma where I’ve lived since then. So.
Marguerite Martin: Wonderful. Yeah. And what do you like about living in the north end?
Catherine Feeney: Um, well, I love the walkability. Um, it’s just nice to be able to walk to, you know, coffee shops and [00:02:00] restaurants and the movie theater, the library, you know, it’s, it kind of reminds me of Europe.
Catherine Feeney: I love traveling to Europe for that reason. And so, yeah, I think that’s the main thing.
Marguerite Martin: Do you have any favorite spots right now? Anywhere that you find yourself walking to more often than others? I love, uh, Delightful Market. Oh. Yeah. That’s my favorite. Another Delightful Market stand. It’s like, Delightful Market’s kind of like got a cold fall away.
Catherine Feeney: Yes, totally. Yeah, it’s a great place. Yeah, and they’re adding new things all the time. So,
Marguerite Martin: yeah. How would you describe Delightful Market to people? Because my niece moved, she bought a house kind of near there. So, I hadn’t heard of it. And then I started going because she was going all the time. And I was like, whoa, this is like nothing else I’ve seen.
Marguerite Martin: Yeah.
Catherine Feeney: Gosh, I don’t, I mean, I mainly go for the coffee, right? You know, it’s really good coffee. Um, so that’s what I mainly go for and I love to be able to sit outside even in the winter. Cause I can take my dog, it’s covered, you know, even if it’s raining, get a nice hot cup of coffee. [00:03:00] Um, But it’s great, like, if I forget, need, you know, something, milk or something.
Catherine Feeney: Right. I love to run there, because it’s so much easier than trying to, you know, run to the grocery store and try to find a parking spot. Yeah. You can pull right up, get what you need. It’s
Marguerite Martin: so special, because it’s like, to describe it for people who haven’t been there, it’s like, It’s a convenience store and a, like, coffee shop slash cafe in the middle of, like, a residential neighborhood.
Marguerite Martin: Yes,
Catherine Feeney: but they also have seasonal items. Like, we got our Christmas tree there this year. Oh my gosh, that’s so cool. And it was the best Christmas tree we’ve ever had. We normally go and cut our own. This one lasted so long. Um, I was surprised at how fresh and,
Marguerite Martin: yeah, they have fun stuff. I wish like zoning allowed for more of that in more neighborhoods, it’s so special.
Catherine Feeney: I agree. Yeah, and it really brings the neighborhood together, so, which is important for building community. Like you meet your neighbors when
Marguerite Martin: you go
Catherine Feeney: to Delightful.
Marguerite Martin: That’s so cool. Okay, well, the topic of the podcast is now, uh, Delightful Market Stand Podcast, [00:04:00] that’s fine. Yes. Well, the reason that I wanted you to come on the podcast was, uh, I was scrolling Instagram and, um, my friend Alyssa Christensen, who’s a mutual friend of ours, uh, like sent me this thing and she was like, I don’t know if you’ve seen this, you should follow these guys they’re doing on Plane Air.
Marguerite Martin: And I, I didn’t know what that was. So I like kind of looked at the account and I, I didn’t quite understand. So I Googled it and I was like, oh, it’s painting outside. Yep. Is that what it is? That’s basically what it is. And did I say, how do you say it?
Catherine Feeney: Yes, en plein air, plein air, plein air. Yeah, or you can say plein air.
Catherine Feeney: I mean, yes, but it’s yeah It’s basically painting outside as a way to capture the natural light you know, there’s a lot of nuances in the shadows and light and atmosphere colors that are really hard to Get you can’t get that from a photograph. Mm hmm. So Being on location and especially when you’re first learning to paint, it’s really [00:05:00] important to paint from life to really be able to see things.
Catherine Feeney: Um, you know, like I said, shadows and light and it just photographs just don’t give that to you. So, um. Yeah, so that’s basically why you do it, and you know, it started with, you know, the impressionists really were the ones, the French impressionists that everybody, Monet, um, you know, the invention of, uh, paint in tubes is what allowed artists to be able to go out, because prior to that they had to, You know, mix their own pigments and things in the studio.
Catherine Feeney: But the invention of tube paint allowed them to get outside, outdoors, and paint. And it, yeah, just changed the way that people painted. Um, and then, in the 1980s, uh, there was kind of a resurgence. I’m sure people were still doing it, but, um, then there was a national group that formed, uh, the Plenair [00:06:00] Painters of America started, and then other groups have started cropping up all across the country, and there’s actually a statewide group here in Washington called PAWA, Plenair Washington Artists, that you can join, and they host paint outs, you know, several times a year, um, 15 or so paint outs at various locations.
Catherine Feeney: Some are multi day paint outs. People camp and, um, yeah, it’s really fun and it’s a great group of people. I belong to that organization I joined last year and I really have loved it. Um, they host different events and then they’ll even do like a paint in a earlier This month we did that up in Edmonds, so, um, but it’s, you know, you have to travel for a lot of these.
Catherine Feeney: Some of them are, you know, much further away, and so that’s where I was looking for something a little closer, so.
Marguerite Martin: Okay, so I have, I have a hundred [00:07:00] thousand questions. Uh, first of all, like, I, I, I did a couple Bob Ross paintings, uh, as a preteen. And, uh, I posed for the TCC, uh, and UPS figure drawing classes in my thirties.
Marguerite Martin: Other than that, I have no painting experience. But I’m very, I’m very intrigued. I don’t understand, like, what happens. So, and I don’t understand, like, it’s weird. Like, I saw the, the post and it’s been, like, in my brain for, like, the last six months. And I’m, like, I was, I had to kill some time. And I went into, like, art supply store and, like, bought a bunch of.
Marguerite Martin: Oh, yeah. And I was like, and brushes. And I’m like, okay, now, now what? Now what do I do? Yeah. And I’m like, could somebody in that situation just show up and start trying to paint? Yeah, absolutely. Do I watch YouTube videos first? You could. Do I go to a, is there a class? What do you do? Yeah.
Catherine Feeney: I mean, there are lots of YouTube videos.
Catherine Feeney: videos. Nowadays, of course, you can just do a search and find I’m sure someone that’s, you know, kind of teaching you how to do some of these things. But, um, one of the things [00:08:00] we’re hoping to, you know, as we maybe get more interest in the group, have a day where we would have some kind of, you know, kind of little lesson that we could show people how to, you know, set up and because also just even using the gear, you kind of need special gear.
Catherine Feeney: Totally. Like
Marguerite Martin: a, like a little portable easel or something. Yeah. So it’s
Catherine Feeney: called pochade box. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, that, you know, can hold, well, there’s different, there’s so many different varieties that you can, you know, Tons of people sell them. Uh, there’s a lot of different manufacturers. Well, yeah, because now I’m getting retargeted.
Catherine Feeney: So there’s like these little tiny ones that are like a little box. Yeah, like an Altoids container. Yeah, people have even used those. Um, but, you know, and there’s different, you know, some people use watercolors. Some people use pastels. You can do oil paints, acrylics. You know, gouache is a big thing now that people are using.
Catherine Feeney: Um, it’s kind of like It’s like [00:09:00] watercolor, but it’s opaque. And, uh, But it behaves a little more like acrylic paint. It dries much faster. So, um,
Marguerite Martin: yeah. So before I asked you how everybody can come, I guess I probably should have asked you like, what happens? Like how do you organize it? How do you let people know when people show up, do you talk to each other?
Marguerite Martin: Just kind of chill? Like what, what happens when you do this? Well, I
Catherine Feeney: think what we’ll probably do is, you know, uh, announce a location where people, you know, we can all meet and, uh, Possibly provide like a little map that shows like, you know, possible painting locations that people could go. So for example, we’re kind of thinking about making the first one at point defiance, cause there’s a lot of possibilities for painting locations.
Catherine Feeney: You have the duck pond, you know, the flower gardens, you know, there’s the. that looks down on the water with the ferry, the boats. I mean, [00:10:00] so people can kind of spread out. And, um, so, you know, there’ll be kind of like a central location where, you know, we can meet and maybe somebody will be painting in that spot.
Catherine Feeney: So if people show up late, you know, but. I mean, that’s kind of how it works. You’re not all in like a little pack painting the same duck. Right. Exactly. People can spread out and go wherever they want within that location. Um, we’ll probably try to let people know where there’s bathroom locations, where there’s places to get water, things like that.
Catherine Feeney: Um, And then, you know, people can come really at any time and then spread out and paint where they would like. Um, or if they want to paint with somebody. I mean, that’s usually what I prefer is because I don’t like being by myself because it’s kind of, you know, I hate people coming up and talking to me.
Catherine Feeney: I’m getting better at that. But, you know, when you’re first starting out, it’s kind of a little. [00:11:00] You know, embarrassing.
Marguerite Martin: Right. No, I
Catherine Feeney: think about
Marguerite Martin: that. Like, first as a person walking by, I would be very interested. I would want to look. And then I can imagine, if I was painting something, that feeling like really vulnerable.
Catherine Feeney: Yes, yes. But, I mean, I am getting More used to it now the more I’m doing it. So and getting better at talking to people about it. It’s so
Marguerite Martin: good. Yeah Involved in this with you. I feel like I’ve seen somebody else. Yes. Yeah.
Catherine Feeney: Well, so right now basically It’s myself and one other artist Brad Reeves and we met on Instagram in The fall, we were doing a thing called the Strata Easel Challenge.
Catherine Feeney: So this company, Strata Easel, they actually sell portable, you know, pochade boxes for painting. And they host a challenge twice a year that, uh, you have to draw or paint from life every day for the whole month. They do it in September and January. Oh, like [00:12:00] NaNoWriMo for painting. So interesting. And so I started noticing that this guy was posting things like Chambers Bay and different, you know, and I’m like, Oh, this person must live locally.
Catherine Feeney: So I reached out to him and was like, Hey, would you ever want to get together and paint? And he said, Sure. So we met up and then we’re, you know, I was like, Look, I really would like to try to get more people to have a group to go with. And so he’s like, Yeah, so let’s do it. So we kind of are trying to get this started.
Catherine Feeney: So, yeah.
Marguerite Martin: Well, I’m going to go ahead and go to the break. Uh, and when we come back, I’d love to hear more about what your vision is and how it all works. Yeah. Sounds good.
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Marguerite Martin: back to the move to Tacoma [00:14:00] podcast. I’m here with Catherine Feeney from South sound. Plan air. And we’re talking about painting in public. Yes. So, you’ve met with, you found Brad on Instagram, you’re both painting, you’re both wanting to paint in public, it’s weird to be alone.
Marguerite Martin: So you’re starting to put together this group. How can people who want to sort of find you and plug in and maybe join you, how do they reach out? How do they follow up with what you’re
Catherine Feeney: doing? Sure. So we created an Instagram account. So it’s at South Sound plein air so you can follow along there and also, um, I created a Facebook page also, so, um, you can just follow there and for now, you know, the plan is that we’ll start posting, uh, when we’re going to have it.
Catherine Feeney: Um, and I’m going to also, uh, I created some flyers, so I’ll be posting those around town in various locations, um, just to [00:15:00] see, you know, like the art store and things like that, where people might, you know, uh, And just share that information with anybody that you think might be interested in, in joining.
Catherine Feeney: And, um, so we’ll start, uh, the plan is to start in April, when, you know, hopefully the weather’s starting to warm up a little bit. Right. Um, and, you know, we’ll try to pick some locations that have places where you could kind of stand underneath a tree or something, you know, if it’s raining a little bit or, yeah.
Catherine Feeney: Okay, so if I show
Marguerite Martin: up to one of these, Mm hmm. what do I need to have in my Pochade? Yeah, your pochade box. Yeah, so I need a pochade box. Yeah. And I’m assuming, I probably shouldn’t, like, go on Amazon and buy a pochade box if, like, I’m starting out. Like, I would go to the, where, where do you recommend around town?
Marguerite Martin: Yeah, I mean, well,
Catherine Feeney: the funny thing is, I actually, so, I just, it was, uh, 2022 when I decided that I wanted to start doing this, um, and so, I went to a thrift store and I actually walked in and saw a [00:16:00] pochade, I was like, oh my a thrift store? Yes. And I was like, I think this is a post shod box and it was like three dollars or something and I said, oh my gosh, I’m gonna buy this.
Catherine Feeney: So, um, and it has a, a place to keep your paint brushes and your tubes of paint and things like that. And, um, then, uh, usually it mounts on a tripod, um, but there are, you know, like the artist and craftsman store, I’m sure that they have some, um, any art. Supply store. Um, there are, like I said, there’s lots of different companies online like strata easel is one of them.
Catherine Feeney: Um, there’s even, uh, companies that I’ve, I’ve heard of someone that’s making some that are like, uh, 3d printed even. So they’re super lightweight, um, for people who travel. Cause that’s another thing. Um, and I, I have a tiny one that I use when I travel. Um, yeah. It folds up and it can [00:17:00] fit in my carry on bag.
Catherine Feeney: Wow. So, um, and then obviously you need your paints, but you know, you really only need your primary colors in white. Just a yellow, a blue, and a red, and white, and you can create any color you need out of those three. So you don’t need to go buy all the crazy colors. I mean, I do remember that from like second
Marguerite Martin: grade, I think.
Marguerite Martin: Yeah. I remember a little bit of paint mixing, but it really is that simple. You really do only need three. Real artists just start with three. And
Catherine Feeney: that’s the best way to, when you’re first starting out. Yeah. And then a few, you know, brushes, um, you know, and any good art supply store could help you with.
Catherine Feeney: Picking some of those items out again. You only need a few brushes And then if you’re using like traditional oil paints, you would need um, Like turpentine or something gamsol to clean your brushes and stuff But um, i’ve actually recently switched to a water soluble oils uh Cobra makes a brand and you use [00:18:00] water and then you can clean and that’s much easier for traveling and it’s more environmentally friendly um And some paper towels, also for wiping your brushes off.
Catherine Feeney: Maybe a little garbage bag or something. Yep, a little garbage bag. I put everything in a backpack. And then a, you know, a tripod if you, depending on the style of box that you have, you know, or your painting setup, um, you, yeah. That’s basically, you know, maybe a stool if you want to sit down. Um, I also have an umbrella that attaches to my easel sometimes, you know, because you don’t, if it’s more to keep your paints from drying out in the sun or getting wet if it rains or something like that, not so much for yourself.
Catherine Feeney: So, yeah.
Marguerite Martin: So I think there’s, there’s two things that’s really, are really interesting about this. Like one is just, making art. Yeah. And I have a lot of questions about like, why does it matter that regular people should be. Yeah. Finding art [00:19:00] supplies and like going out there and painting and then also like this way in to like sort of be in community with other people in a way that’s, I mean, I don’t want to call it passive, but it’s a little bit like we’re finding a shared interest, we’re doing this thing together, but we’re not having like a big, intense conversation.
Marguerite Martin: So those are the two things like, what does that bring up for
Catherine Feeney: you? Yeah, well, I mean, I just. I always did art when I was younger and then once I started having my kids, I got away from it thinking that someday I was going to do it again, probably when I retired. And then in 2021, my husband built me this tiny little art studio in our backyard out of salvaged materials.
Catherine Feeney: And that’s what kind of reignited my interest in it. And, um, I just, I love it. It just brings me so much joy. And I think that’s even, I don’t know, just to be creative. I mean, I think we are creative beings by nature. We spend so much time working, just having [00:20:00] a creative outlet, whether it’s music or art or dance, singing, whatever it is.
Catherine Feeney: Like it’s. It’s really important to us being a whole person, you know, we shouldn’t just work, work, work, you know. I
Marguerite Martin: have complicated feelings about this. I feel like, you know, I was a little kid and I did art like, uh, like all little kids are encouraged to crayons or whatever, but like my sister’s really good at it.
Marguerite Martin: She could really see. day, like make beautiful things. And so like, I kind of leaned into other things and I really think like, I think I just got this idea. I don’t know if other people are like this, like someone says you’re good at this and someone says good at that. And so you just kind of close that off.
Marguerite Martin: And so I’m trying to like, you know, in my mid forties, trying to undo some of this, but I feel a lot of like resistance. Um, you know, I was telling you before we started, like I went to the art store and bought a bunch of paints, but like, now what do I do? Like, do I just. Try to paint.
Catherine Feeney: Yes. I did a paint by numbers.
Catherine Feeney: That’s great. That’s great. I mean, I think, you know, [00:21:00] it’s like just kind of getting in touch with that inner child, just that, you know. I don’t know, not being so uptight about things. I mean, I know Okay, I’m a Virgo with a Virgo moon, Catherine. I mean, that’s really And the funny thing is, uh, in my own art, you know, I’m Starting out, it’s very tight and everything’s perfect and So I’ve really been working on loosening up and being more playful in Yeah, being
Marguerite Martin: so do you just tell yourself it’s okay to make something ugly?
Marguerite Martin: But you’re saying it’s okay to just have fun. It is. Didn’t even occur to me.
Catherine Feeney: Yeah. And it can be ugly. And some of the practice things I do, you know, some of the studies I do it, it is ugly and that’s the whole point of it is just because you kind of learn things through that, you know, and in the beginning, yeah, it’s rough.
Catherine Feeney: Like even for me, even though I did art when I was younger, when I was first starting out, I go back and look at those paintings I did a couple of years ago. I’m like, Oh, but you know, like [00:22:00] anything, yeah. You can practice and get better. I mean, people think, oh, you’re born a good artist, but it takes a lot of work.
Marguerite Martin: Yeah.
Catherine Feeney: And, and, you know, a lot of practice and you can get better and you can create and. Yeah,
Marguerite Martin: so. Okay, so again, sorry to be uptight, but it’s a fair, it’s fair. So, uh, let’s say I’m doing that and I, I show up to the, um, you know, you’re in Wright Park and I show up with my little bag and I got a snack and a stool and like, I’m ready to do this.
Marguerite Martin: Uh, and I, I’m making something playful. Mm-hmm . Maybe ugly and like nobody else is gonna think that’s weird. Like, all are, all the other paintings gonna be like super beautiful and people are gonna be like, how did you get here? What are you doing? I
Catherine Feeney: mean, that’s what I thought when I first started going. I was like, so this is normal.
Catherine Feeney: I was, oh my gosh, are these all like really professional artists that are really good? There’s all skill levels. Yeah. Yeah. All skill levels and. It’s also, you know, just being out in [00:23:00] nature. There’s something just really beautiful about it. And I do enjoy connecting with the other artists, talking about art, and you learn so much from other people.
Catherine Feeney: Um, it’s really a great community. People are very, uh, encouraging.
Marguerite Martin: So this sounds really, you’re making it sound really nice.
Catherine Feeney: Yeah, it is really nice.
Marguerite Martin: Yeah. All right, so what, what do you see is happening next? You’re, you’re saying like now that it’s spring, you guys are gonna be getting together out there.
Marguerite Martin: People can check in on Facebook, check in on the Instagram. We’re gonna put those in the show notes and we’ll tag it on the Instagram when we post it here. But like, um, what, what, what’s gonna unfold from this, do you think?
Catherine Feeney: What’s
Marguerite Martin: your vision?
Catherine Feeney: Well, we’re hoping to, you know, have at least monthly paint outs, uh, through the nice weather, uh, regularly scheduled, you know, probably we’re kind of thinking like the third week of every month.
Catherine Feeney: So people could. kind of put that on their calendar, kind of a predictable schedule. [00:24:00] Um, but then we would like to have some other maybe specialty events where, say towards fall, if we can find like a pumpkin patch that was willing to host us, we would try to go and paint the pumpkins, you know, or, um, you know, a flower garden or lake walled gardens or something, you know, if there’s any, you know, other places, locations that we, you know, kind of find to host something.
Catherine Feeney: And then, um, maybe even like do a nocturne, which would be in the evening, you know, as the sun setting, you know, um, to capture that, you know, sunset or evening light, you know. I’m imagining like Ruston Way and Owen
Marguerite Martin: Beach and places where there’s lots of
Catherine Feeney: Yes, yes. Mm hmm. Or another, like, Chambers Bay because, you know, the light, the sun sets out there in the summer toward, you know, it’d be beautiful with the water and, yeah.
Catherine Feeney: So, and maybe even some, like, urban, [00:25:00] uh, painting, you know, like, uh, farmers markets or things like that. That’s something I’ve been getting more into recently is not so much. Landscapes is more I’m interested in like urban painting or interiors. That’s something I’ve been enjoying. So.
Marguerite Martin: This can really be anywhere.
Marguerite Martin: It can be anything. Yes. Yes. All right. So people are listening and they’re like, okay, I want to get involved. I want to plug in Instagram, Facebook. Is there, and they could just DM you if they have a question. Absolutely. Is there any, is there any other way that you like people to get in touch or those are the main ways?
Catherine Feeney: I mean, those are fine. Um, I have a website for my art that I was thinking about creating a page for this specifically. I mean, it’s not the South Sound plein air though website. I mean, we don’t have the funds right now to host a whole nother website, but I thought, well, I could have that there. If, um, I could maybe have more information there.
Catherine Feeney: I haven’t created that page yet, but a. Potentially might do [00:26:00] that, so. So for now, definitely Instagram and Facebook. Yes, that’s probably the best way. Keep an eye on the Googles. Yep, yep, exactly. Yeah. I hope you come. I, I am very, I’m very nervous and very
Marguerite Martin: tempted. Like, I, I can’t tell you, ever since I saw it, I’m like, that looks like something.
Marguerite Martin: It’s such a nice way to spend, I mean in my mind it’s probably a couple hours, but maybe it’s semi
Catherine Feeney: silly, is it longer? It can be as long or as short as you want. I mean, when I go with the, you know, plein air Washington artists group, um, you know, it can be an all day thing, cause sometimes, you know, sometimes it’s a multi day thing, so you’re spending the night, I mean, we’ve camped, and we all eat meals together, and then, you know, a few people might go and do a nocturne together.
Catherine Feeney: People get up early in the morning and paint the sunrise and everybody’s out painting all day. We have lunch together. You know, it’s really fun. Like that type of, you know, But, I mean, sometimes I can do, like, a quick study in an hour just to capture the light and the colors, the shadows, or [00:27:00] whatever. And then, yeah, that’s enough for me.
Catherine Feeney: And then you can take that back to your studio and create a larger piece or, you know, something a little more detailed from that tiny study if you want to.
Marguerite Martin: Very cool. So you might just be getting started.
Catherine Feeney: Yeah. And it’s also a nice thing, I have a sketchbook and I take those gouache paints with me when I travel, um, or sometimes watercolors, and I like to keep that as a memory in my sketchbook of my travels, so, yeah, lots of different ways it can be used, so, yeah.
Marguerite Martin: Well is there, is there anything else that you want to make sure that people know?
Catherine Feeney: Um, well, we’re hoping we get more people to join in and eventually, um, you know, we would love to find a venue where we could potentially host, you know, like an art show of, for our members, you know, to, to [00:28:00] show some of their works.
Catherine Feeney: Um, yeah, I think that’s, you know, our goal, you know, we’ll see, it’s just starting. So where this leads, you know, So step one,
Marguerite Martin: build
Catherine Feeney: it so that the people can
Marguerite Martin: come. They’re going to start meeting. Then depending on who comes and the talents and the energy from the people that are there, what can, what can come of that?
Marguerite Martin: What opportunities? For locations. Yeah, exactly. And exhibition and Oh
Catherine Feeney: yeah. It’s so exciting. It is exciting. Yeah. Yeah.
Marguerite Martin: Well, thank you so much for coming on and talking about this. I, I can’t wait to see what you all do this summer. Yeah.
Catherine Feeney: Well, thank you for hosting me. Yeah, thanks.
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